Are Headers Worth It?

24. Lip 2020.
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One of the most common ways to increase performance on a naturally aspirated engine is to install an exhaust header. They aren’t too expensive, and the install should be pretty easy on the miata. But how much power do they actually make? Today we’re gonna install a set of headers find out!
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  • Good video, but think it would've been better to compare it with stock exhaust as well.

    DjentlemanDjentlemanPrije 3 sati
  • Man I feel bad for you watching you pray for a few HP on your NA MX5. Meanwhile I'm about to change the cams back to the OEM ones on my Supra, which is probably gonna cost me 40hp because I want it to feel more stock.

    NSP Nutrition Sports PerformanceNSP Nutrition Sports PerformancePrije 6 sati
  • Why didn’t it show him put the gasket in with the header????

    Dillon WeaverDillon WeaverPrije 22 sati
  • To be fair, the miata had a decent header-style manifold before so gains wouldn't be great. Had you went from a log-style manifold however, that would have been an easy 5 hp.

    Robert SnyderRobert SnyderPrije dan
  • That’s tuf stock they made 128 from the factory

    User unknowns RBUser unknowns RBPrije dan
  • Does it have any head work

    Mike JonesMike JonesPrije 2 dana
  • that intake runner is sooooooooooooooooooooo longgggggggggggggggg

    Tim GTim GPrije 3 dana
  • Forward slash, not back slash my guy.

    Templaric LegionTemplaric LegionPrije 3 dana
  • How much hp would the whole exhaust upgrade make tho. The header and cat back system together

    Steven HendersonSteven HendersonPrije 4 dana
  • Going from what’s essentially a mid length header to a long tube isnt gonna make much of a difference, start with a car that has those terrible stamped steel headers

    AnAMGguyAnAMGguyPrije 4 dana
  • Did you "massage" the headers? Looks like a dent in there

    Peter Montoya LimPeter Montoya LimPrije 4 dana
  • Did'nt mention anything about starter heat soak with long headers, blocking transmission removal, starter removal etc.

    Thunderbird88Thunderbird88Prije 4 dana
  • would you say this is worth it knowing you are about to turbo it and throw this piece away?

    Brad LagBrad LagPrije 4 dana
  • Wait wait Stock Miata makes only 100hp and 90+ mph shit thought that would make somewhere around 200 hp

    Yuvraj singhYuvraj singhPrije 5 dana
  • Can you feel a 5 HP increase? Or what's a 'magic' number increase where you can actually feel a difference?

    Dean JoosteDean JoostePrije 5 dana
  • Lol bruh.. the STFT snd LTFT haven't had ANY time to adjust to the header. Take it back and try it again after driving it with some spirit. I am willing to bet you will see that 10hp

    Joshua F.Joshua F.Prije 6 dana
  • Been two days and I still can't get the heat shield off of the headers...

    Michael JosephMichael JosephPrije 6 dana

    Ethan AlixEthan AlixPrije 7 dana
  • looked like you replaced headers with stainless S headers..

    troubleless onetroubleless onePrije 7 dana
  • Why do they always do this? They slap bolt ons without a follow up tune and expect the car to just do something amazing with it. You are basically fooling the car with stock parameters; no matter how much it “re-learns” on its own, It’s always going to assume your exhaust is stock and adjust accordingly for stock exhaust output. That’s why your gains were much less than you anticipated. After bolt ons a proper tune is a MUST to actually get the horsepower out of the labor you put in. Your testing procedures are wrong and I guarantee you that you can pull at least 2-3 more horsepower out of that upgrade with a proper tune.

    Icack -Icack -Prije 8 dana
  • “Kinda worried we’re gonna max out the dyno on this one” ya Miata go braaaaaaaappppp!!

    NotMr. CleanNotMr. CleanPrije 8 dana
  • Would that style Dyno show better numbers than something with rollers that forces you to actually spin the tires and extra mass? Or does this calculate the difference?

    Brian StuartBrian StuartPrije 8 dana
  • Shouldn't you tune after install to compensate for the increased flow

    Nate PhillipsNate PhillipsPrije 8 dana
  • Got to love magnaflow I got that on my protege

    Angel IGRAngel IGRPrije 9 dana
  • Idk if this was mentioned due to the # of comments but. . Dont you need a tune with the header for hp gain?

    Natural MysticNatural MysticPrije 9 dana
  • The ‘99 and ‘00 Miata came with a cast iron manifold. A popular upgrade for those is the ‘01-‘05 tubular exhaust..

    Edgar A.Edgar A.Prije 10 dana
  • The factory manifold was pretty good.

    drecartierdrecartierPrije 10 dana
  • Me wanna upgrade my car, but no available of the shelf tuning parts for my car anywhere. Sadly enough the only way is to custom made for my car which is extra expensive. 🥺

    Dave Dörenberg-VeltmanDave Dörenberg-VeltmanPrije 11 dana
  • 5:57 is that a jack stand on grass?

    BlakeBlakePrije 11 dana
  • Don't buy vincero buy they are trash buy yourself some Chinese watch that are way better in quality and wayyy way cheaper

  • put a mustang v6 in there. lol

    Jay MannJay MannPrije 12 dana
  • 10:38 he got all excited and than an AD came through😭

    RHN418RHN418Prije 12 dana
  • I worked on cars all through my younger years, watching this show I just realised that we're 10 years away from all this knowledge about getting the best out of a combustion engine becoming obsolete. Sure for a hoby it might be interesting, but who's going to give a shit when you're up against everything electric.

    z dz dPrije 12 dana
  • ..

    CeMVlogCeMVlogPrije 12 dana
  • "Worp"

    Aaron HastieAaron HastiePrije 13 dana
  • If you installed this and the intake AFTER new cams the results would probably be significant. If the engine isn’t taking in more air via cams then it won’t do anything

    jrbbikerxjrbbikerxPrije 13 dana
  • My cat went out on my '01 prelude so I did the whole exhaust. For my header I went with Dcsports. With a quieter exhaust definitely gave a funky tune. Loud but not too loud.

    Alexander GlassAlexander GlassPrije 14 dana
  • I literally just watch 6 other videos where headers alone on a stock engine created a 5% increase on power and torque. I haven't watched this video in it's entirety yet but anything other than a positive gain in performance would simply be incorrect. No matter what there has to be a higher curve in either torque or horsepower if not both.

    gsxtr1gsxtr1Prije 15 dana
  • Yes, end of video

    Cody HarringtonCody HarringtonPrije 15 dana
  • Those exhaust manifold bolts and the manifold it self where expertly cataloged For future reference very professional.

    D-MACD-MACPrije 16 dana
  • If it looks cool, it’s worth it

    Ethan HaydenEthan HaydenPrije 16 dana
  • Yo, more info on the watches mane. Them sick.

    Marco SalazarMarco SalazarPrije 17 dana
  • Let's be real, if we were here for power, you wouldn't be driving a miata

    adam10157adam10157Prije 17 dana
  • Out here in Kentucky every 350 Chevy comes with complementary shorty headers

    Twb 2ATwb 2APrije 17 dana
  • Depends on the car and headers

    Elmatacoche 701Elmatacoche 701Prije 17 dana
  • Get a cutout. back pressure is restricting.

    Diego CDiego CPrije 18 dana
  • What headers are these?

    Noah ShrimpNoah ShrimpPrije 18 dana
  • not surprised you saw little gain in peak output. general rule: increase pk hp with intake mods. unlock full potential with exhaust mods. (think funnel) plan mods in a downstream flow. execute mods in an upstream flow beginning with drivetrain and suspension. don't always have to upgrade each component, but at least make sure the components can handle what's coming.

    dhtsoaeds dhtnadidhtsoaeds dhtnadiPrije 18 dana
  • *Warp not worp

    David KuselDavid KuselPrije 18 dana
  • 1:31 Cheap???? Haha look up vq37hr headers $1200 and a very tight fit.

    Diesel JordanDiesel JordanPrije 19 dana
  • Well the problem here is you didn’t get a sticker with that header. The sticker alone is a 9hp gain

    William SchnoorWilliam SchnoorPrije 20 dana
  • I love the “Mo powa Babyy”

    El CapoB14El CapoB14Prije 20 dana
  • Just monster Miata this b*tch with an LS swap.

    In0chiIn0chiPrije 20 dana
  • With a proper tune, you can squeeze out some more power baby, maybe those 109 or 111, who knows?

    JRVA84JRVA84Prije 20 dana
  • 1.26 Cold air intakes do not add any power, it has been proven so many times that is does nothing I don't get why people still think it does.

    NemesisTsukiNemesisTsukiPrije 20 dana
  • Will u ever put the turbo

    Edward BenavidesEdward BenavidesPrije 20 dana
  • This just showed me that I will not be spending $400 for headers

    Dylan StuhrDylan StuhrPrije 20 dana
  • You could have Made 10hp If you have a better intake

    Joshuar JöcksJoshuar JöcksPrije 21 dan
  • Those headers? No. Not worth it. Ebay headers for half the price? Certainly.

    Kolton McCallisterKolton McCallisterPrije 21 dan
  • Money pit a 240

    Alan ClarkAlan ClarkPrije 21 dan
  • Always worth it plus if your doing other engine mods they will come into play, Needs a good map induction kit lighten the fly wheel upgrade the clutch port the head and your golden forget turbos.

    Chronic MachinesChronic MachinesPrije 21 dan
  • Just P&p the heads

    virgilio nievesvirgilio nievesPrije 22 dana
  • It sure cleaned up the curve. You’ll definitely get more out of that.

    Ryan PinkhamRyan PinkhamPrije 22 dana
  • I don't understand.. asking if headers are worth it is like asking if bigger injectors are worth it. You don't need either if your engine is stock

    Sir BumblefahkSir BumblefahkPrije 22 dana
  • worth it even with ebay parts for me lol

    Aaron HuangAaron HuangPrije 22 dana
  • If you are turboing it wouldn’t a shorty have been better so you could reuse it

    Dirt Cheap MediaDirt Cheap MediaPrije 22 dana
  • I just dont understand why the first mod you did was not an LS swap.

    SugaryPhoenixxxSugaryPhoenixxxPrije 22 dana
  • If the stock part was a heavy cast iron manifold that flows like garbage then that stainless steel header would've made a bigger difference. Your stock headers look like they would flow good just as they are

    BeneBenePrije 23 dana
  • What will happen if you run the car with no heads. sorry Im new to the car scene. I drive a hyundia.

    Edward GarciaEdward GarciaPrije 23 dana
  • pretty new to swapping out more complex parts, but I'd imagine that when tightening headers I should follow the same sequence as the head, yeah? No, no... I haven't got the parts now but I'm just checking my info, just incase :)

    Richie BlackwellRichie BlackwellPrije 24 dana
    • @Sir Bumblefahk coolio, thanks for that man :)

      Richie BlackwellRichie BlackwellPrije 20 dana
    • Yea, just like tightening lug nuts and head studs you want to spread the load out so you don't warp the flange. Pretty much any part that is flat with a lot of fasteners should be tightened the same way you tighten head studs

      Sir BumblefahkSir BumblefahkPrije 22 dana
  • 6:25 the car in the back says "I need an oil change"😁👍🏼

    Expo Tour Las VegasExpo Tour Las VegasPrije 25 dana
  • heat shield? nah! you don't need it..........weight reduction!!! lol

    blunismo1blunismo1Prije 25 dana
  • You need to tune it in the ECU to get its maximum HP added from installing it. But I’d say the difference in sound was worth it alone. I’m not sure if from the drivers seat the sound was noticeably different, but it was from the camera position at the exhaust output.

    Ryan VollRyan VollPrije 26 dana
  • Glad the flange won't worp? Oooooops

    Joseph ComeauxJoseph ComeauxPrije 26 dana
  • Time for a V6 Swap just 230hp would be so fun on a miata.

    Obe WanObe WanPrije 26 dana
  • You should do some remap/piggyback tho, gaining hp by just changing the headers or the fs exhaust need better fuel mixture, im not gonna say sometimes because that is really necessary, you'll probably end up at least 120hp i think

    jim chrisjim chrisPrije 27 dana
  • You already had tube style headers which is a weight saving feature over cast iron. You only had 4 cylinders. A V8 or V6 would get more weight reduction and more horsepower. Haven't bought any headers in about 20 years so not sure if the bang for the buck is worth it at today's prices. But, there's always the cool looking factor.

    Tommy BakerTommy BakerPrije 28 dana
  • i am REALLY enjoying these videos. Just picked up a 99' Gen2 SL GT3000 and im looking into affordable upgrades to really make her mine. Already got my new cold air intake on the way and after your exhaust video and this one i know what im looking for next!

    KamandrothKamandrothPrije 28 dana
  • Mo pwr baby

    Souper SimeSouper SimePrije 29 dana
  • A team any one

    Joseph McDermottJoseph McDermottPrije 29 dana
  • Considering I’m a truck guy and I enjoy the off road, hp isn’t really important to me, so anytime I can gain turks, it’s a big deal! Lol

    Brody HeiligBrody HeiligPrije mjesec
  • Trash honda makes 200 from box

    Zack LopezZack LopezPrije mjesec
  • Should have done an oil change and change the sparkers. You woulda got that 111

    Pichardo GabrielPichardo GabrielPrije mjesec
  • What happened to the oxygen sensor?

    Emmanuel SolisEmmanuel SolisPrije mjesec
  • Is it fun to drive a miata

    William TAWilliam TAPrije mjesec
  • Is that a r32 in the back ?

    travis cox-anderstravis cox-andersPrije mjesec
  • Just clicked on the video tonight. I think I watched 4 already and learned a lot. Yeah being a car guy means justifying the little improvements. I'm about to buy a 04 e36 325i and not many channels cover the mods so simply. Love the content.

    Yusuf DawoodYusuf DawoodPrije mjesec
  • Gotta admit, the factory Mazda header looked pretty close to the new one. Maybe if you started out with the old style cast iron log, you gain a lot more.

    Peter RobinsonPeter RobinsonPrije mjesec
  • Im ab toninstall heders on my 99 prelude .. if some one knows if the temperature increses onder the hood please leteme know or if is better to disipate or keep my engine little cooler please that is wath i like to know please and thanks

    mistico1384mistico1384Prije mjesec
  • Why couldn't you guys choose a non japanese vert for this ? Atleast a e30 vert

    Eddie ElCabezonEddie ElCabezonPrije mjesec
  • You didn’t hit 5hp at peak horsepower but what about everywhere else in the curve theres more to speed parts than just peak hp.

    R4ZZ3LD4ZZ3LR4ZZ3LD4ZZ3LPrije mjesec
  • Who's E36 is that? Any videos of it?

    thefairdevilthefairdevilPrije mjesec
  • Liquid wrench works better than pb blaster.

    kingpest13kingpest13Prije mjesec
  • Did u drive it around first before dynoing it? It takes time for the computer to read added mods.

    GlockSigBerettaColt Fan boyGlockSigBerettaColt Fan boyPrije mjesec
  • any tuning?

    BillytheBob PorrasBillytheBob PorrasPrije mjesec
  • Plan on putting LTHs on my Silverado should make 40whp over stock on a 93 tune

    Eternal ThreadEternal ThreadPrije mjesec
  • Why didn't he go with the Banana manifold!? Would given defently higher increase!..

    Mathias MorellMathias MorellPrije mjesec
  • What about a tune?

    MichaelMichaelPrije mjesec
  • Sorry, I can't stop notice in the beginning the new header is dented......

    Allan TamAllan TamPrije mjesec
  • Is it really fine to leave the manifold heat shield off?

    SoulzSoulzPrije mjesec